How often do you stop by your mum’s place to have a quick chat about sex?
Never? Once a year? Once a month? Or, like, every day?
If you’re Dr. Janet Hall and her daughter Pam Ella Hall, your conversations are entwined with musings about sex. Discussions and analysis on how long you traditionally orgasm for are common narratives, the concept of what it means to be a modern lover forever up for debate.
The duo can be considered two of Australia’s first mother and daughter sexperts, both passionate in their pursuit of healthy relationships through the bedrocks of healthy sex.
Dr. Janet Hall is a psychologist, hypnotherapist and sex therapist. Her daughter, Pam Ella, is a Tantric life coach, purporting to “immerse herself in the world of sacred sexuality”.
So what’s it like being so open with your mother about what is traditionally such a societal taboo? And to have your lines of work intertwine so naturally?
For Dr. Janet Hall, perhaps not as remarkable as you or I might originally assume. And although their entire careers are centred so heavily on the relationship humans have with sex, she is quick to explain how much their jobs markedly differ.
"We have totally different styles," she tells Mamamia.
"I am the academic and sex therapist of 35 years. I’m working mostly with how people think about sex and how they communicate about sex in order to solve problems and design an ideal sex life. Pam Ella, on the other hand, is a Tantrika, which means she talks about whole body orgasms, how to use breath and how to weave masculine and feminine."
For the ignorant or simply totally confused, Dr. Hall means she works in conversations, theories and in ideas. Pam Ella, on the other hand, has a much more physical role.
It is, I guess, the kinds of careers that "complement" each other, Dr. Hall believes, but ones that also come with their differences of opinion.
"She’s coming from the holistic model. On paper, I talk about spirit, heart, mind and body but I don’t do any hands on body work. She doesn’t have sex with anybody of course, but there is a lot of breath work, and relaxing massage and learning about trigger points in the body that don’t necessarily have to do with sex but to do with the erogenous zones," Dr. Hall explains.